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RE: Coffee bean grinder + Chris's prints & blather

	Two things:
1) There is an omission of a decimal point in your formula below.  It should
be 9.5 grams of hydroquinone, not 95 grams.  
2) Checking back as far as my 1978 Photo Lab Index supplements, I found a
GAF #115 formula exactly the same as yours below but couldn’t find an Ansco
#118.  Were you referring to #115 or was there, indeed, an Ansco #118?  I
know that the company was once known as Ansco/GAF but that isn’t really the

From: Jack Fulton [mailto:jefulton1@comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:04 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: Coffee bean grinder + Chris's prints & blather

On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:19 AM, eric nelson wrote:

Different Eric here but I got a good price for silver nitrate a while back
from saltlakemetals.com.  I looked at one of my bottles to get you that name
and I may need a coffee grinder too. =\

Glycin will turn bad pretty quick once opened even in a dry state.  I think
claims of a red tone from that dev are inaccurate but on some papers no
longer made, it might have done that.  That formula looks similar to Ansco
130.  Warm tones can be better achieved with Ansco 115.  Higher dilutions
make it warmer BUT I used it with some Oriental Warmtone paper and was
underwhelmed by it's lack or warmth from what I was used to with Forte,
(sniff, I miss Forte paper).
Thanks for link to silver nitrate  . . .  great price.
The actual formula for the Ansco 130 has Metol in it, twice as much Sulfite
and Hydroquinione. Why the Kodak one does not I am not sure. Ansco also had
another formula, #118
Sulfit		90 grams
Sod Carb	150
Glycin		30
Hydroquin.	95
Pot Brom	4

But your note that it will deteriorate once opened is a good thought. Though
I must say that when I bought it years and years ago it also did not work
as implied.
	Jack F

Kodak formula:
H2O             750 mls
Sod Sulfite     25 grams
Glycin          4         "
Sod Carb        30.4 "
Pot Brom        1       "
to make 1 liter
Dilute 1:2 w/water

Exposures must be adjusted and color is determined by length of development.

Have any of you ever tried this? My luck is nil . . . but my thoughts have
led to the idea that perhaps an immensely long exposure
is necessary.

And, finally, looking @ Chris' new messy, moldy, brush strokey pix, the ones
appealing to me is the 1st Father Daughter image for it reminds me
of Louis Duco Du Hauron's image of the city of Agen, virtually the world's
first color outdoor image, which employed virtually the same basic
premise as tri-color gum
And that last photo, the hand-colored Mordancage, "After Richter" w/that
blue vein. Both are quite interesting to view again.

What'm I doin here . . . writing a blog? But hope some answers come to the
multiple questions or POV's.

Jack F

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