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RE: ferric oxalate

Perhaps as things move forward and digital movie stuff easier to upload, I’ll make a video next time a make a batch of liquid ferric and you can see just how easy it is. The cost does go down very fast AFTER the quantity of raw chemicals goes up a bit. If you just get 500 g of Ferrous Ammonium Sulfate, that might be around $65 but a 2.5 Kg is only $ 105 or so and 25kg is cheaper still. Artcraft might be able to repackage it if enough people wanted to get some.

 

I believe that I posted the stuff on the site that was mentioned early by someone.

 

http://www.ericneilsenphotography.com/free_papers/Ferric%20Oxalate%20Making%20Liquid.pdf

on the new web site

 

Eric Neilsen Photo

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214 827-8301

 

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

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From: Diana Bloomfield [mailto:dhbloomfield@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:51 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: ferric oxalate

 

Hi Eric,

 

Yes, that's what I was wondering about heating the water too much. I was being on the safe side, so actually wasn't heating it enough, I think-- but that's good to know. Thanks.

 

Saving money is good. I would like to start mixing some of this from scratch-- well, at least I think about mixing some of it from scratch. It does make sense, but it also makes me a little nervous.

 

On Nov 10, 2008, at 6:38 PM, EJN Photo wrote:



It is REALLY quite easy to make from scratch. But it does take some time and does save a BUNCH of money. I also HIGHly recommend mixing the Potassium Oxalate from component chems and save even more money. It too is easy.

Yes, you can heat the water too much. Heat will turn your ferric to ferrous before you have a chance to use it.

Eric

Eric Neilsen Photo

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214 827-8301

SKype ejprinter

From: Diana Bloomfield [mailto:dhbloomfield@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:14 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: ferric oxalate

Oh, lord no. Not for a minute would I attempt to make anything from scratch-- except maybe a pound cake.

No, I'm just trying to mix up the ferric oxalate powder with distilled water and would like to know the amounts to use-- water to powder, and can you ever heat the water too much? Just having a hard time here, so wonder if I'm doing something wrong (as usual).

Thanks, Neal.

Diana

On Nov 10, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Neal Wilson wrote:




Diana
You are trying to make Ferric Oxalate from scratch? I've always been told this was a difficult process because of the compound's instability. There are detailed instructions at http://e.neilsen.home.att.net/FerricOxalate.html I've read again and again that this was something to buy rather make because of the time it takes and that the relative cost savings is neglible.

Did I misunderstand your question?

Neal








> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:59:27 -0500
> From: dhbloomfield@bellsouth.net
> Subject: ferric oxalate
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>
>
> I'm trying to mix up some ferric oxalate, from powder, for use in pt/
> pd printing. Can someone detail their formula for me, for mixing
> this thoroughly?
> Thanks.
>
> Diana