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Re: Displaying alt prints

Ah-- okay-- I didn't think about magnets harming an unmatted print; I also was forgetting that you used the thin Masa paper. That all makes sense. Thanks, Rajul. It would be great to see a picture if the Gallery has one.


On Mar 4, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Rajul wrote:

The matting masks the borders surrounding the image to good effect, and irrespective of the printing medium used.

In the case of Masa-mounted-on-acetate-supports prints, matting effectively uncurls the print and holds it flat against the matting.

Having a good size matting around the print separates it appropriately from the color of the surrounding metal
panel. Applying strong magnets to an unmatted print would probably damage it.

I will try and see if the Gallery has any pictures of the hanging prints. If so, I will try and jpeg it to you off list.


On 4-Mar-09, at 1:05 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:

I think I can visualize it a bit better now. I had understood that the lip on one edge was bent backward, to allow for hanging on the nails-- but I was a little confused about the mounting to the metal, too-- so the print is just held to the metal with the magnets-- so you can keep using the same metal sheets with different prints. Yeah, I think you said that early on.

The link for the magnets was taking such a long time to load, I gave up-- but I'll try again. That would clarify it, too-- to see the magnets, I think-- for me, anyway. But you're still using traditional matting with this, then, or am I misunderstanding that? If so, you really wouldn't need the matting, would you? That was just an aesthetic choice on your part-- or is it serving some other (and necessary) function here. I'm guessing if you leave a clean border (or not clean) around the print, then you could simply use the magnets on the border, couldn't you? Or does that look bad?

On Mar 4, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Rajul wrote:


I am glad that my little experiment done years ago eliminated a lot of hassle and has evoked interest on our list.

Q 1. The Masa was pre-mounted on acetate supports before taking it through numerous cyano/gum passes.
NOTHING is glued on to the prepared metal sheets.

Q 2. All prints are matted and held on to the metal sheets with magnets. Initially, the prints were shown through the protective clear plastic bags; with Masa prints, I thought I would expose the beautiful surface which which gelatinizing provided for all to appreciate. And they did!

The lip on one edge of the metal sheet is bent back more than 90 degrees (closer to 120 degrees) to ensure that it will sit firmly on the nails. Yes, the upper hangs ~1" from the wall, the lower edge rests against it.

I hope this clarifies, if not, I will be happy to elaborate.


On 4-Mar-09, at 12:15 PM, Katharine Thayer wrote:

Rajul, I'm glad you're so patient with questions, because I'm still not seeing it and need to ask more questions.

First, my understanding is that you're talking about two different things, both involving steel sheets but (1) in the case of the prints on masa, you mounted or glued the masa to the steel sheets (before printing, right? Or maybe no... my recollection is that you mounted the masa on mylar before printing?) and (2) separately you're talking about matted prints in clear bags attached to the steel sheets by magnets?

The sheets are flat, like a cookie sheet, but bent (a 90 degree bend?) at the top so the lip could be rested on two nails? So the top of the sheet is an inch from the wall, or more, and the bottom of the sheet rests against the wall?

Am I picturing that right?


On Mar 4, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Rajul wrote:

Sorry Diana, I cannot provide a picture for you. But I will try and describe how I went about it.

Metal panels: these were steel sheets I got a local metal fabricator firm to cut and polish the edges of (for safe handling). They also made a 1" lip by bending each panel so
it could hang on two nails.

Powder Coating: This was done by a local powder-coating firm (can be pretty expensive unless
done on a batch of panels). There were plenty of colors to choose from but the one
I chose had a beautiful low-profile energy that did not out-shout the print itself, and
rather complemented it.

Magnets: were bought from a firm with a name Magna-Skin. They were on the internet at <www.magna- skin.com> but have since folded up. The magnets (bricks) are a Chinese import. If you Google, I am sure you will come up with something appropriate. Each measures 1.5L x 0.6W x 0.5" thick.

I hope this helps. If you have further questions, I will try and answer them.


On 4-Mar-09, at 10:54 AM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:

Hi Rajul,

Do you have a picture of what this looks like? I'm having trouble envisioning the prints mounted on the metal panels, but it sounds great. I would love to get away from mats, glass, etc. So if you have a picture, can you provide a link?


On Mar 4, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Rajul wrote:


I forgot to mention that in my most recent show of Masa prints, the matted prints were mounted on metal panels WITHOUT protecting them in plastic bags. This showed off the seductive surface beautifully, so the bags might be used just for storage and not for display.


On 4-Mar-09, at 10:32 AM, Paul Viapiano wrote:

Rajul...do you have any photos of this method?

Do you mean the prints were in the bags and then hung on the panels?

I like the idea of a quick change-out method but not the display of a print in a bag...hmm


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajul" <eyeear@telus.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:49 AM
Subject: Displaying alt prints

Dear List,

FWIW, I would like to share my experience on this subject which has cut enormous outlays of time and expense in accomplishing repeated hangings at the gallery which has carried my work until the economics of floor space and costs caused them to relocate (still in progress).

All my prints (~8 x 10", on various paper media) were matted (outer dimensions 16 x 20") and enclosed in Clearview plastic bags. These were held on metal panels (20 x 24") that were bent at the top to provide a lip for hanging, using 2 strong magnets. The panels were powder- coated with a cool grey-brown color that showed off platinum, Kalli or cyano-gum and other combos to great advantage (based on viewer feed-back).

At the end of a showing, all I had to do was to swap the old for new prints and voila, that was it.

Hope others will share their experiences to enable alt printers to devote more time to the thrill of generating prints that delight.