Re: anti-virus programs

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From: Editor - P.O.V. Image Service (editor@p-o-v-image.com)
Date: 04/04/00-10:34:46 PM Z


Thor Bols wrote:

> Gord, get the hook, would ya? This stuff is no more on-topic than the Mac
> vs. PC stuff of yesterday. Especially, when it is nonsense like this:
>
> "Viruses will eventually be written for Java, or ones that use your Browser,
> or an e-mail script that is non-platform specific... As the web becomes the
> common denominator instead of OS's, viruses will more and more use the web
> as the their form of transmission, infection, and propagation..."
>

>
> This individual knows NOTHING about JAVA, etc.

Really? Glad you just so willingly made such an ASS of yourself in front of an
audience (you should check your facts before you speak - never know who you are
REALLY talking to here)... Normally, I wouldn't spar intellectually with an
unarmed opponent but this is TOO easy..

A) I do my own Java Programming and scripting (if you think that the
'sandbox' is totally secure think again) You can see the hand-coded JavaScript
on my site, Java progs, well, I don't post those.. Oh yeah, did I mention I am a
certified Microsoft Developer and OEM...?

B) I am an expert. I served on the National Security Agency/ National
Computer Security Center Trusted Database Review Group... Feel like opening your
mouth a bit wider? Want to insert more of your foot.? I personally set up the
Computer security systems from the NJ Department of Defense, I also set up the
first computer security protocol (as in rules and regulations) for NJ State
Government (way back in 1988).. I served on a cabinet-level inter-agency
computer security and information privacy task force for the State of NJ while
serving as a systems analyst, EDP auditor, and computer security specialist paid
by the NJ Governor's office.. Did I mention I was the only state level official
in the entire US sitting on the NSA team?

Or maybe that I did the same kind of work for major political campaigns in the
US? I can point you to pics of me with the appropriate candidates..

Or perhaps you want copies of some of the publications or regulations I wrote?

> "e-mail scripts"?

Oh yeah, and the viruses posted to the list, the other day exploited a scripting
security hole in Outlook Express..

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2000020318071406&src=n

That is fully on-topic!

Who doesn't know what he's talking about now?

> The web
> becomes the common denominator instead of OS?!!!??" C'mon!! You're just
> worrying people needlessly.

>
> Maybe you think you can get by with throwing this kind of jargon around in a
> photography forum, but REALLY, you just look foolish to anyone with even a
> modicum of system understanding.

Yeah, that's why I worked in the field for years... You want copies of my
letters of commendation.? I'm more than willing to post them...

So be careful where you hurl your Hammer before you check things out Thor..

Only an idiot has unprotected sex, keep telling everyone how safe the net is
without any protection... I suppose you were a truck driver in Africa before
you became a photographer, huh?

Don't open a flame war here.. Let it drop, now that you've made an idiot of
yourself..

I normally wouldn't descend to such vituperation, but you fired the first
shots...

My earlier response was simply an answer to a question of what programs people
like on the Mac...

Oh and by the way, if you're Thor, I guess I'm your Lokki... remember, in the
end the Rainbow Bridge falls and I win...

Keith Krebs

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