Tony McLean sent me the info on Thiourea dioxide. It looks like a vert interesting process. Most silver prints that I make winde up in a toner of some kind. I want to give it a try. Eny one know where I can get thiourea dioxide here in the states. I sent a email to art chem a few days ago I have not heard from yet. He might be checking it out he is helpfull that way. Thanks for eny help James Romeo