From: Maria T. Olmedo (mariato@earthlink.net)
Date: 09/14/00-09:33:29 PM Z
Dear List:
I've been lurking on this list for about a year and have truly enjoyed all
discussions on all the topics. I a relatively new to photography, and I
know I have a lot to learn technically, etc. but, just a couple of questions
and comments about the recent thread. (I know y'all could hear the but
coming):
on 9/13/00 9:10 PM, Sandy King at sanking@hubcap.clemson.edu wrote:
> And is not Newton's work truly the ultimate stereotype
> of erotic woman, stripped of all attributes of what is a woman but
> the requirement that she yield to male power? And of course in this
> case, a perversion ordered and arranged by the person that is
> Newton's wife.
And, why exactly is June Newton at fault? And what is Helmut Newton's role?
In my opinion, it seems that the women in Helmut Newton's editorial
photographs are empowered by being pictured as physically strong, and if one
looks, they are very much individuals. They look as if they aren't going to
yield to anything they don't want to, even if they are naked. Perhaps,
here, Mr. Newton has tapped into a female fantasy.
on 9/14/00 1:20 PM, Rod Fleming at rodfleming@sol.co.uk wrote:
. . .do you remember "The Graduate"? Why were we supposed to be shocked that
Hoffman fell for the glamourous, experienced, doubtless skilled woman played
by the wonderful Anne Bancroft? Why were we supposed to find this
relationship "improper" and his relationship with the daughter- played as a
naive, "innocent" and compliant young girl- "proper"? Was it because the
Bancroft character, being older and more powerful, yet a woman, was in
control of the relationship? This is a more telling case than any number of
youthful blondes exposing their anatomy on Page Three.
I agree with you; it is very telling. At the end of the movie the Hoffman
character ran off to happily ever after with who?
Just some observations,
Sincerely,
Maria Olmedo
molmedo@icp.org
mariato@earthlink.net
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