From: Keith Schreiber (jkschreiber@earthlink.net)
Date: 12/14/02-05:20:09 PM Z
Jeff, Clay, Jack, et al,
I am responsible for most of the paper chapter in the Arentz book, so maybe
I can clear up some details regarding "gampi" paper. Names of Japanese
papers can be very confusing since there seems to be little consistency from
vendor to vendor. For the testing that I did for the Arentz book, I obtained
samples of "Gampi" from Daniel Smith and "Gampi Torinoko" from New York
Central. From the catalog descriptions (20x30", 96gsm) I guessed that they
were the same paper and that proved to be the case. I got samples of both
colors (nicely described by Jeff below) from both vendors. In all cases I
found the paper to have good wet strength. I obtained the best results using
an addition of 1 drop of 20% Tween 20 per 2ml of coating solution. Image
quality was every bit equal to the best results I've seen on any other
paper. I usually print pure Pd but found Pt/Pd 1:1 to work well too. Due to
its expense I haven't done much work with it beyond the tests and a handfull
of other prints.
I have noticed that Gampi is no longer listed in the Daniel Smith catalog.
The Kinsella (www.kinsellaartpapers.com/PriceList/oct2001.pdf) listing
(22x30", 96gsm) may or may not be the same paper. The weight is the same,
but the size is different.
At Hiromi (www.hiromipaper.com/), I think the best bet would be HP-71 Gampi
Torinoko White.
Finally, a couple of suggestions for handling fragile papers:
1. Use fiberglass window screen a bit larger than the paper to transfer from
one bath to the next.
2. Instead of moving the paper from tray to tray, keep the print in one tray
and dump and fill from beakers or buckets if you are working large.
Regards,
Keith
J Keith Schreiber
www.jkschreiber.com
jkschreiber@earthlink.net
jeffbuck@swcp.com wrote:
> Clay: The "Gampi" I got from Kinsella looked really attractive dry
> and unused. There was a white, kind of opalescent, variety and some
> stuff roughly the color of grocery bags (a nice color). Pretty
> expensive. The surface of the paper showed a VERY apparent and
> random-ish structure of the plant filaments (or whatever you call
> it). Thickish stuff. As for wet processing, the surface seemed to
> decompose somewhat in the middle (causing various unsightly
> blemishes) and pretty much came to pieces around the edges. The paper
> dried to a very attractive parchment-type look in either color. Image
> quality was atrocious, no matter what I tried (tween, grain alcohol
> -- which perhaps I should have taken internally, maybe I
> misunderstood the directions -- you name it). Real uneven, streaky,
> grainy, splotchy -- awful. A shame, because you could tell, even with
> all the problems, that the paper gave good, smooth tonal gradation.
> If somebody has found a "Gampi" paper that holds up in
> wet-processing, coats worth a hoot, etc., I'd love to try again.
> -JB
>
>
> Clay <wcharmon@wt.net> said:
>
>> Jack:
>>
>> Which Gampi did you use? They have a whole boatload listed on their
>> website. The Gampi I tried from Daniel Smith had about the same wet
>> strength as toilet paper.
>>
>> Clay
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jack Fulton" <jefulton1@attbi.com>
>> To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Japanese papers
>>
>>
>>> There is paper called Gampi with tremendous wet strength but is
>>> still very thin with a slight crinkled surface not unlike a fine
>>> parchment. You can print quality VDB and cyano imagery on it. When
>>> dried there is a good similarity to onion skin.
>>> This paper can be purchased at:
>>> website: www.hiromipaper.com
>>> (310) 998-0098 they are in LA
>>> Hiromi Katayama
>>> 2525 Michigan Avenue Bergamot Station Art Center,
>>> G-9 Santa Monica, CA 90404
>>>
>>>>> Has anyone done any printing on Japanese paper or tissue? A
>>>>> friend of mine works in a Japanese store here
>>>>> in Toronto and feels it would do well ... I mostly do Cyanotypes
>>>>> right now.
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