From: Alejandro Lopez de Haro (alhr@wanadoo.fr)
Date: 02/23/02-07:28:31 AM Z
Hi John:
Just to let you know, in Webster's Third New International Dictionary,
"photographist: photographer". Nothing else is written, no other meaning. In
other words, photographist is another word for photographer. So nothing else
can be imply from this word. Although I admit, that the "graphist" part of
the word, could possible imply a more expanded meaning, a mixture of a
photographer and a graphic maker. Perhaps is better to call photographers,
painters, drawers, photolithographs, etc. "image makers".
Alejandro López de Haro
----- Original Message -----
From: <Grafist@aol.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: Oleobrom and photographists
> In a message dated 09/02/02 15:26:26 GMT Standard Time,
sanking@clemson.edu
> writes:
>
> > BTW, what is a "photographist"?
> >
> > Sandy King
>
> Sandy, First,it was my slightly pretentious label for a person, like
myself,
> who practiced making images using photographic techniques.......but not to
> the exclusion of other means, particularly those of hand brushwork etc.,
> etc., Since I started way back in my early childhood with drawing,
painting
> and photography, but found after many years of following well trod paths
that
> neither craft satisfied my desire to make marks on flat materials like
paper
> and canvas or to achieve aspects of abstract imagery, a merger of the
areas,
> then, apparently opposing fields of graphics presented itself to me in a
> verbal way, as it were........I thought I had created a new description
for
> myself which gave a clue to the non-photographer of what I was trying to
do.
> One day several years later whilst browsing through my copy of "The
> Encyclopaedia of Photography" by Walter Woodbury 1890 (eighteen ninety) I
> came across this definition " "Photographist" = A photographer." (Page
> 518). It was worth the $10 I had paid for the book just to realize that I
> had not been alone in the notion that an "alternative" concept of someone
> working with a camera and mixed media might well wish to be described
> differently to others working only with photography. Perhaps this label
> would not suit everyone, but you must see it does arouse curiosity even in
> those as well read as yourself....nezpah? I also felt it might describe a
> photographer who still has a sense of humour ( U S humor) even tho' they
may
> be sitting on a cactus. All comments and ridicule welcome.
> And for Oleobrom....thanks Pete, Dennis and Sandy for the good technical
> references altho' I probably wont go into the wet hands mode just yet
awhile.
> Too much on my plate. I would just like to talk about the Oleobrom
process
> in a more knowledgeable way to students. Also, would appreciate
> communicating with Kirk Toft who is reputed to have helped many more
> vociferous people than himself to gain publicity with Oleobrom. I was on
Gene
> Laughter's "B" (Bromoil) list awhile back, but since I am not a
bromoilista
> felt better in retiring back to the broader and more entertaining field
of
> the "A" (Alternative) List since it is a very good sociological and
> linguistic study of internet communication as much as photographic
matters.
> But to stick within the topic of photo processes, Oleobrom sounds a
little
> like Oil Printing using factory paper material.
> BTW.Has anyone tried doing Gum prints on fixed out factory bromide paper?
I
> have not. Since I have recently reached "retirement" age and have left
the
> job in Hell, I may now have some more time to devote to being a
> Photographist .
> This list is truly theraputic. Thanks.
> John -Photographist
>
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