From: John Cremati (johnjohnc@core.com)
Date: 02/23/02-07:58:35 AM Z
I have a old book on the autobiography of a Daguerreotypist and he
claimed they used to call photographers " Shadow Catchers" in the 1850's.
When the new photo processes started coming out he wrote " This modern
technology, I just can't keep up..."
John Cremati
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alejandro Lopez de Haro" <alhr@wanadoo.fr>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Oleobrom and photographists
> Hi John:
>
> Just to let you know, in Webster's Third New International Dictionary,
> "photographist: photographer". Nothing else is written, no other meaning.
In
> other words, photographist is another word for photographer. So nothing
else
> can be imply from this word. Although I admit, that the "graphist" part of
> the word, could possible imply a more expanded meaning, a mixture of a
> photographer and a graphic maker. Perhaps is better to call
photographers,
> painters, drawers, photolithographs, etc. "image makers".
>
> Alejandro López de Haro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Grafist@aol.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Oleobrom and photographists
>
>
> > In a message dated 09/02/02 15:26:26 GMT Standard Time,
> sanking@clemson.edu
> > writes:
> >
> > > BTW, what is a "photographist"?
> > >
> > > Sandy King
> >
> > Sandy, First,it was my slightly pretentious label for a person, like
> myself,
> > who practiced making images using photographic techniques.......but not
to
> > the exclusion of other means, particularly those of hand brushwork etc.,
> > etc., Since I started way back in my early childhood with drawing,
> painting
> > and photography, but found after many years of following well trod paths
> that
> > neither craft satisfied my desire to make marks on flat materials like
> paper
> > and canvas or to achieve aspects of abstract imagery, a merger of the
> areas,
> > then, apparently opposing fields of graphics presented itself to me in a
> > verbal way, as it were........I thought I had created a new description
> for
> > myself which gave a clue to the non-photographer of what I was trying to
> do.
> > One day several years later whilst browsing through my copy of "The
> > Encyclopaedia of Photography" by Walter Woodbury 1890 (eighteen ninety)
I
> > came across this definition " "Photographist" = A photographer." (Page
> > 518). It was worth the $10 I had paid for the book just to realize that
I
> > had not been alone in the notion that an "alternative" concept of
someone
> > working with a camera and mixed media might well wish to be described
> > differently to others working only with photography. Perhaps this label
> > would not suit everyone, but you must see it does arouse curiosity even
in
> > those as well read as yourself....nezpah? I also felt it might describe
a
> > photographer who still has a sense of humour ( U S humor) even tho'
they
> may
> > be sitting on a cactus. All comments and ridicule welcome.
> > And for Oleobrom....thanks Pete, Dennis and Sandy for the good
technical
> > references altho' I probably wont go into the wet hands mode just yet
> awhile.
> > Too much on my plate. I would just like to talk about the Oleobrom
> process
> > in a more knowledgeable way to students. Also, would appreciate
> > communicating with Kirk Toft who is reputed to have helped many more
> > vociferous people than himself to gain publicity with Oleobrom. I was on
> Gene
> > Laughter's "B" (Bromoil) list awhile back, but since I am not a
> bromoilista
> > felt better in retiring back to the broader and more entertaining field
> of
> > the "A" (Alternative) List since it is a very good sociological and
> > linguistic study of internet communication as much as photographic
> matters.
> > But to stick within the topic of photo processes, Oleobrom sounds a
> little
> > like Oil Printing using factory paper material.
> > BTW.Has anyone tried doing Gum prints on fixed out factory bromide
paper?
> I
> > have not. Since I have recently reached "retirement" age and have left
> the
> > job in Hell, I may now have some more time to devote to being a
> > Photographist .
> > This list is truly theraputic. Thanks.
> > John -Photographist
> >
>
>
>
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