Re: fresson

[Art Chakalis <achakali@gcfn.org>]

I rebut your surmised win as you have not presented any data which
indicates that gum arabic is not present.   

The bet still stands . . . data pending.

Sincerely, Art

p.s. Wipe that silly >grin< off your Email.


On Thu, 2 May 2002, pete wrote:

> Pete
> 
> Dick,
> 
> Yes I was at APIS 97 and Art and I had a bet on whether the traditional
> Fresson contained Gum  he was going to do some backwards engineering to
> determine it one way or the other. As I have had no redress I claim my right
> as the winner >grin<
> 
> Pete
> 
> > Pete,
> > 
> > There were areas that were off limits when I was there. And yes the secret
> > is in the paper. I believe you were at APIS 97 in Bath, otherwise known as
> > the Sweatlodge, when Art did his presentation on Fresson. I believe art is
> > working on the theory of a gum/gelatin mix which is not compatible, thus
> > making a fine reticulation in the gelatin which aids in direct development.
> > 
> > --Dick
> > 
> > 
> > At 06:17 PM 5/2/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >> Pete
> >> 
> >> Argon,
> >> 
> >> No this was a bit of a red herring I have done an in depth study of this
> >> process, the secret is in the coating of the paper a secret machine was
> >> used. The man that has the real secret apart from the Fresson family is Luis
> >> Nadeau who has/had a machine he bought from Jose Ortis Echague. A picture of
> >> this machine and Echague operating it can be found  in a book published by
> >> Gordon Fraser 1979.
> >> 
> >>> Didn't I once read that part of the Fresson Process involved the use of a
> >>> sawdust/water slurry to remove the unexposed areas of pigment.  Is that the
> >>> "secret" that makes the Fresson Print what it is?
> >>> 
> >>> argon
> > 
> > 
> >