Re: spots and fish eyes

I must apologize for not getting Chris's image online after I said I
would; first I had to run out to do some errands and it took longer
than I expected, and now that I'm back and have the image, I can't
figure how to get it out of the mail (eudora) to where I can access it
to put on the website. I'm sure it's simple but I'm just not seeing it.
I was feeling so confident about how well I'd figured this website thing
out, but I guess I haven't figured it out quite as well as I thought I
had, darn.

In the meantime, I have the image to look at, and I have to say it's not
like any of the things I expected it to be. The spots, more like
smudges, remind me of splotches of mold or mildew on paper, the way they
are shaped. I would concur with your initial speculation that it's got
something to do with the way you shrunk the paper; part of the paper
didn't get wet in the same way the rest of it did. That's my guess. But
it's definitely weird. Wish I could show it to the rest of you.
Katharine

Katharine Thayer wrote:
>
> Chris,
> If Ed's not available I'll be glad to throw this up on my website so
> people can see what you're talking about, with these black spots. It
> could be several things, but it depends what size the spots are, and
> what they look like; it's difficult to diagnose without seeing them.
>
> If the fish eyes are what I'm picturing, where the emulsion opens up
> holes as it's being brushed on, I'm totally with Jack on the cause: the
> surface is not accepting the emulsion, and in my experience the most
> likely cause for that is that the sizing is too thick or too slick. If
> the sizing fills the tooth of the paper, then there's nothing for the
> emulsion to hang onto. I like Jack's idea of Scotch-brite; I've used
> sandpaper for the same purpose.
> kt
>
> Dave S wrote:
> >
> > Christina,
> >
> > It is hard to visualize how the fish eyes look like. Could you describe
> > more?
> >
> > Are you using acrylic sizing?
> >
> > Dave S
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@montana.net>
> > To: "Alt List" <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:53 AM
> > Subject: spots and fish eyes
> >
> > > Good morning all!
> > > I was wondering what the group consensus is on the cause of fish eyes
> > > in gum printing? Is it because the gum/pigment mix is too "limpid" as
> > one
> > > old author said (too watery)? Or is there another cause? This same
> > author
> > > talked about gum, when being mixed with the dichromate, goes into little
> > > microscopic globules that causes this. Or spotty sizing?
> > > In the same vein, I have a most unusual print I did this week that I
> > > would love Ed Buffaloe to show on his site (Ed?); it is really funny. It
> > > fits with my project, which is using negs from my dad's collection from
> > the
> > > late 20's to the late 40's, digitizing the odd shaped negs, and printing
> > > them out so they look like when people were trying to make black and white
> > > color (can you tell I am not very eloquent this morning...) Anyway, there
> > > are all these black spots all over one side, and a line down thru the
> > middle
> > > that looks like water damage. I am very sure it is uneven sizing of the
> > > Fabriano paper--probably due to operator error in that with my shrinking
> > of
> > > the paper I put one too many pieces of paper in my bathtub and did not
> > > agitate enough, or perhaps it could be manufacturer error. Anyone have a
> > > similar problem?
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
Received on Mon Dec 8 19:27:35 2003