Re: Felt vs Wire (was: Re: Stonehenge Paper)

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From: Jeff Buck (jeffbuck@swcp.com)
Date: 01/11/03-10:24:36 AM Z


Thanks, Keith. Interesting. -jb

At 09:09 PM 1/10/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Jeff, Carl, et al,
>
>Hot- cold press, and machine- mould- hand-made, are really independent
>characteristics.
>
>The terms hot-press (HP)and cold-press (CP) are usually used in the context
>of watercolor papers. Many watercolor papers are available in HP, CP, and
>rough surface finishes. In Europe HP is often refered to as "HOT", while CP
>is known as "NOT".
>
>Printmaking papers less often described as HP or CP simply because very few
>are available in more than one surface. One exception is Rising drawing
>bristol available in plate (HP-like) and vellum (CP-like) finishes. Other
>terms commonly used to describe the surface characteristics of printmaking
>papers include wove, laid, smooth, rough, hard, soft .... All of these terms
>tend to be somewhat loosely defined and are used differently by different
>manufacturers.
>
>To further confuse things, hand-made papers are made in a mould, mould-made
>papers are made on a cylinder-mould machine, and machine-made papers are
>made on a Fourdrinier machine. Hand-made papers have no grain direction
>since the mould is shaken in 4 directions. Mould-made and machine-made
>papers have grain direction due to the unidirectional movement of the paper
>fibers as they travel along the web. The slower speed of the cylinder-mould
>creates a sheet with less grain direction than that of the Fourdinier
>machine.
>
>Another important difference between printmaking papers and watercolor
>papers is sizing. Printmaking papers are in general sized internally, i.e.
>the sizing is added to the wet fibers in the beater before the sheet is
>formed. Watercolor papers are usually tub sized (also known as surface
>sized) which results in a paper with less absorbency on the surface.
>
>One excellent book about art papers is "Which Paper?" by Silvie Turner.
>
>Regards,
>Keith
>
>J Keith Schreiber
>www.jkschreiber.com
>jkschreiber@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>jeffbuck@swcp.com wrote:
> > Carl: That's why I threw that question in. I mean, my "knowledge"
> > in this area is limited to little tutorials in, like, the Arentz book
> > and the New York Central catalog, that and a little word of mouth
> > here and there. In any case, in following this thread this morning,
> > I was having a hard time visualizing how hot- and cold-pressing
> > figures in.... -jb
> >
> > Carl Weese <cweese@earthlink.net> said:
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> Another point to throw into the inquiry here: How do these
> >>> phenomena relate to hot- and cold-press? ... -jb
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm starting to wonder how well-defined these terms are and how
> >> universally they apply--or get applied--to various kinds of paper:
> >> mold made, web made, hand made, etc. Think I'll look for a
> >> definitive text on paper next trip to the library.---Carl


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