From: Bill Marsh (redcloud54@earthlink.net)
Date: 07/28/03-11:19:20 PM Z
Hi, Dave,
Perhaps you could give us a few lines on your neg enlarging
protocol. I used to do it with Professional Copy Film 4125,
which of course is dead and buried.
Bill
Dave Rose wrote:
> Dear Chris,
>
> Most of my gum and cyanotype/gum prints are made from 11x14" or 16x20"
> negatives, with actual images closer to 10x13" and 15x19" respectively. I
> leave a sufficient border area on my negatives to accomodate pin
> registration and masking of edges.
>
> All of my images are printed from either enlarged negatives or pinhole
> camera negatives, made with lith film that's developed for continuous tone.
> I've haven't experimented with digital negatives yet. Original film
> formats: "Roadkill Dog" was a 35mm Kodachrome, "Clouds" a 2 1/4" square
> Kodachrome, all others were 4x5" B&W negatives. "Fall Colors" was captured
> with 3-color in camera B&W seperations that were subsequently contacted
> printed (to create interpositives) and then enlarged to 11x14" negatives for
> final printing as a 3-color cyanotype/gum. Sounds pretty darn tedious....
> maybe I should be doing digital seperations and negatives! The "Clouds"
> image was produced by alternately using both a film negative and positive.
> There are no pinhole images on my alternativephotography.com gallery page.
>
> The JPG's are quick copy stand digital photos of actual prints. It's
> difficult to accurately gauge the quality of any image from a low resolution
> JPG on a computer screen, however my prints do exhibit fine detail. I'm
> pleased that you got that impression. Since picking up the view camera
> years ago, I've been a fan of the Zone System and F64 philosophy, so that
> approach carries over into my alt-photo work.
>
> Best regards,
> Dave Rose
> Big Wonderful Wyoming
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@montana.net>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:52 PM
> Subject: Dave Rose's Images
>
>
>
>>Dave,
>> I just visited your website because I had heard via another alt list
>>member that your gums are gorgeous, and that is true. I especially like
>
> the
>
>>one of the old car. It is an image that makes me want to be there, or feel
>
> I
>
>>am there. That emotional connection is what I look for in an image, the
>>ability to feel within someone else's space.
>> I also notice you have FINE DETAIL that seems to be a fallacy most
>>people who have not worked extensively in gum promote--its lack thereof.
>> What size are your images, and are they from diginegs or reg negs?
>>Chris
>>(PS test of the week--left dichromate and gum arabic in a cup for a couple
>>days to see if it does harden with and without exposure. It produces a
>
> coca
>
>>cola colored hard jello like substance. Cool science experiment--both
>>exposed and unexposed ended up about the same place, except the unexposed
>>was a bit softer of a jel and a bit lighter of a black/brown. I know--I
>
> was
>
>>bored.)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Dave Rose" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net>
>>To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:24 PM
>>Subject: Re: Re: Dry Dichromate and Gum, was Re: News from APIS
>>
>>
>>
>>>Greetings from Big Wonderful Wyoming,
>>>
>>>My frustration with the Cibachrome process was the impetus to begin gum
>>>printing 13 years ago. I'd been printing 16x20" Cibachrome prints from
>>
>>4x5
>>
>>>Ektachrome originals. After elaborate production of highlight and
>>
>>contrast
>>
>>>masks to tame contrast, I was still experiencing a red shadow/cyan
>>
>>highlight
>>
>>>color shift. Certain subject matter (images of Indian rock art) looked
>>>absolutely horrible on Cibachrome. So I turned to gum for greater
>>
>>control.
>>
>>>Using umber and sienna pigments with gum yielded prints of stunning
>>
>>beauty.
>>
>>>Although the color was not precisely 'correct', it was so appropriate
>>
> and
>
>>>natural for the subject matter that it simply worked.
>>>
>>>Paint used for ancient Indian rock art was created using charcoal, iron
>>>oxide, and other inorganic pigments. This was not exactly gum printing
>>>(very funny Clay), but close in spirit.
>>>
>>>You can see some of my petroglyph/pictograph images at:
>>>
>>>http://www.alternativephotography.com/dave_rose.html
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Dave Rose
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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