RE: Van Dykes

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From: Rocky J. Boudreaux (rocky@pdq.net)
Date: 09/24/03-10:00:31 PM Z


I have a friend who does wonderful prints from paper negatives.
He uses the modern "oil" sold for the kerosene lamps (not actually kerosene,
odorless as well).
The old time wick lamps for when the power goes like you have inside a
house.
I don't have the name of hand but can get it if you can't figure it out.
It's usually red or yellow in color and many hardware stores carry it.
Target, Home Depot, Loews, Garden Ridge are all good local sources for it.
I tried it once and after a few days it evaporated from the paper negative.
He makes digital paper negatives then rubs it on with a cotton ball.

Some of the waxes and oils turn rancid after a while and really stink.

Good luck.

Rocky
Houston, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Rose [mailto:cactuscowboy@bresnan.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:31 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Van Dykes

#1: From what I've read, The Vandyke process does require 'contrasty'
negatives, so your underexpose/overdevelop approach should be suitable.

#2: I've never done it, but yes, I do agree, oiled paper negatives sure
sounds messy.

#3: If done properly, creating enlarged negatives via interpositives offers
a tremendous degree of control. You've had experience printing lith, so
this should be a relatively easy approach. I've had excellent results
producing enlarged negatives on film. You're certainly not "talking crap".

Best regards,
Dave in Wyoming

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Krawiec" <robk64@yahoo.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Van Dykes

>
> --- Judy Seigel <jseigel@panix.com> wrote:
> >> I believe it's futile to talk about "contrast" or
> > "density" in the
> > abstract.... you need to run a test with a 21-step
> > sensitivity guide and
> > then read the steps -- getting both the number of
> > steps and the difference
> > between step zero and the surround ("D-Max").
> >
>
> I've just joined this group...I'm very interested in
> alternative processes but have minimal experience,
> although I did just get a cyanotype kit so I hope to
> get started pretty soon. I have a few questions about
> this thread...
>
> 1. I've read that a good starting point for getting
> negs of the right density is to underexpose your film
> by one stop then over develop by 70-100%. Other
> sources say overdevelop and overexpose. Anyone have
> any suggestions on this?
>
> 2. As I only have 35mm and 6x6, I ultimately want to
> enlarge my negs, either digitally or via an
> interpositive. I've heard that the best way to do this
> digitally is using a cheap paper and oiling it. Anyone
> have any experience with this? Seems a bit messy to
> me...
>
> 3. I've also heard that creating an interpositive can
> lead to all sorts of problems with density and
> contrast. Is there a trick to doing this correctly?
> Having done a lot of work with lith printing, I
> would've thought that exposing the film for the
> "highlights" then developing for "shadow density"
> might help...or am I talking crap?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rob
>
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