Re: favorite gum pigment colors

Chris,

Thanks for the great information. For the great unwashed on the list, I
wondered if you could comment on the groups of colors you mentioned regarding
transparent vs opaque colors, before I mortgage my children and order a few vats
of the stuff.

Another question I had was which of the "yellows" & "magentas" seem to work
best with tri-rubber prints using cyan, magenta, & yellow gum layers AND which
work best doing Dual Rubber/Cyanotype full color work.

One thought I had was that it would be an interesting exercise to demonstrate
how use of different combinations create various "palettes" when doing full
color, just as one thinks of the palette of colors used by various painters.

I didn't see Sherwin-Williams on the list.... jejejeje

Don't ya just love it when you provide information and people whine for more?
  Thanks again.

Best Wishes,
Mark Nelson
Precision Digital Negatives

In a message dated 12/11/05 11:34:22 AM, zphoto@montana.net writes:

> Good morning!
> I've been putting the finishing touches on a list of pigment choices for
> tricolor gum to use in my class next semester.  It's been fun, actually,
> comparing Wilcox and Page and now adding to that sum of knowledge
> Handprint.com.  I thought the list might enjoy my experience and further
> research.
>
> Then, of course, I just had to order some more pigment because I got seduced
> by the descriptions...That's a tax deductible expense, of course :)
>
> I realize I use mostly:  M. Graham, Daniel Smith, Maimeri, and Holbein.
>
> Usually I find myself using a bright, clear yellow like an arylide, PY65,
> PY97, or a benzimidazolone like PY175, or an azo PY151, common pigments
> available in a number of companies.  If I want warm I use PY110 which used
> to be by M. Graham and now only by Daniel Smith--permanent yellow deep, or
> the slightly more opaque PY139 permanent yellow deep by Maimeri (the latter
> only in Maimeri I think at this time of writing).   Makes great comic book
> golds.
>
> Usually I use a PV19R, like M. Graham's quinacridone rose.  At $4.55 a 15ml
> tube here at MSU it is cheap and really a good paint.  This is a common
> pigment, as can be seen by this list:
> WN permanent rose
>
> MG quinacridone rose
>
> DS quinacridone rose
>
> DS quinacridone red
>
> M primary red
>
> M rose lake
>
> Schmincke ruby red
>
> (M is maimeri, others are self explanatory)
>
> I also use PR209 quinacridone red like MG quinacridone red, WN quinacridone
> red or M tiziano red or a PR254 diketo pyrrolo pyrrole red  like Maimeri
> sandal red.
>
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>
> Then there are some unusual pigments which I am going to try, one of a
> kinds:
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> PR260 isoindoline scarlet only in Old Holland vermilion (hue) extra (no blue
> reflectance so mixes well with other warm colors and with greens).
>
> PY 138 quinophthalone yellow I can find only in these two brands:
>
> Rowney Artists permanent yellow
>
> Fragonard permanent lemon yellow
>
> PY 159 zirconium praseodymium silicate
>
> I could find only in WN Winsor lemon yellow deep.
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> I'm sticking with single pigment choices.
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> What's nice is I notice both Maimeri and Winsor Newton and maybe other
> companies have labels that are helpful--Winsor red, Winsor yellow, Winsor
> blue, for instance, and Maimeri's Primary Red, Primary Yellow, Primary Blue,
> could get a student started in tricolor easily and inexpensively and with
> high quality pigment choices.
>
> Chris
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Received on Tue Dec 13 02:18:45 2005