Re: polivinyl alcohol vs. gelatin sizing

Giovanni,

I have not used the Elmers glue but had some very nice success with what is
marketed as Tite-Bond II (that's a roman numeral 2) in the states. It is a
very waterproof glue meant for gluing wood. I used it diluted with 10 parts
water. At least one of the prints I showed a APIS was sized this way. It's
limitation is that the glue is not white or clear but has a yellow color
that gives the sized paper a slight "buff" color. It is just off white a
little, not so much yellow but a slight amber color. It wouldn't be right
for everything but is very subtle for work that can tolerate a warm white.

Jack

> From: Giovanni Di Mase <gdimase@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:52:29 -0400
> To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> Subject: Re: polivinyl alcohol vs. gelatin sizing
>
> I tried also under Kevin Sullivan suggrestions.
>
> I am trying to produce very large prints (1 mt x .80 cms) and obviously the
> most difficult part is to get an even coating.
>
> In my opinion, it is a little bit messy to use Elmer's glue on the exact
> proportion so I went and found the chemical polyvinyl alcohol.
>
> I tested and works but needs to be tuned.
>
> I also did some search over the Internet and found interesting articles at:
>
> http://www.celvol.com/index/productsmarkets_index/products_markets_pvoh/pvoh_a
> pplication/pvoh_application_paper.htm
>
> http://www.chemvip.com/SolutionPreparationGuidelines.pdf
>
> Now Elmer's glue is soluble in water and this issue is being cover at
>
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4110494.html
>
> I also found that several companies are working on the basis of this
> polyvinyl alcohol for the paper and inkjet industries.
>
> I wonder if anybody in the list has made any further research.
>
> In my opinion it covers very well the gelatin and paper sizing requirements
> for alternative process.
>
> Giovanni
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@montana.net>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: polivinyl alcohol vs. gelatin sizing
>
>
>> Giovanni,
>> Kevin Sullivan of B and S fame told me he regularly uses Elmer's Glue in a
>> 1:8-10 dilution for a size. I have not tried it; if you try it please
> tell
>> the list how you like it.
>> Chris
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Giovanni Di Mase" <gdimase@hotmail.com>
>> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:19 AM
>> Subject: polivinyl alcohol vs. gelatin sizing
>>
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>> As anybody worked or tested the polivynil acetate or alcohol (it is
> found
>>> in Elkmer glu) as a substitution to gelatin for sizing paper?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Giovanni
>>>
>>
>>
>>
Received on Fri Jul 29 15:32:27 2005