Re: Gelatin size: brushed or immersed?

Carmen,

What does the white vinegar pre-coat do? Is this something you brush on
and dry before coating the cyano emulsion?

Does this work with other papers? If so, which papers have you tried?

TIA, Rajul

On 23-Sep-05, at 10:54 AM, Carmen Lizardo wrote:

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> Dear List,
> First, thank you all for all of the help with my
> “cyano first coat dilemma”. Its solved now. I am
> using Fabriano Artistitco, 140 lb (much chaper than
> the 300lb, although I got the heavier paper to print
> really well with a white vinegar pre -coat) now I
> have gelatin questions:
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> I started to size my paper today, by immersing it
> into the gelatin solution, but since my sheets are so
> big, 22x30”, this procedure requires a lot of gelatin
> to fill my tray. Also, it is kind of hard to do such
> big sheets by myself. I know that some of you brush
> the gelatin solution on the paper, which right now
> seems easer to do. What are the adventages and
> disadvantages of each method? And, can you offer any
> advise in how to do eather merhod more efficiently? I
> am planning to harden the gelatin with glyoxal (by
> immersion)
> Thank you again for all of your help.
> Carmen
> --- "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@montana.net>
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>> Hi Andy,
>> Nice website! Fun to get to know you. You're not
>> too far away from me in
>> BZ MT.
>>
>> The student in my class doing lumen prints had a
>> couple in crit this week
>> that were beautiful. They were on Ilford MGIV
>> paper, which surprised me.
>> They were fixed with the sodium thiosulfate (10%
>> with the addition of 1%
>> sodium carbonate, 5 min). She used times up to 10
>> hours, and the ones that
>> were the most compelling were some daisies that she
>> did; the center of the
>> daisy printed yellow just like a daisy!! So the
>> interaction of the
>> moisture/pollen/chemistry/whatever really does some
>> of the neatest effects.
>>
>> This batch of students I have in Experimental Class
>> this semester is just
>> FUN. They are teaching me all kinds of new things,
>> as they are very
>> adventuresome. The only problem with the class is
>> that every week I teach a
>> menu of processes, so I end up zooming through 50+
>> different things. Lumen
>> prints, therefore, are, like, soooo two weeks ago :)
>> and I have yet to take
>> a breather and make my own...but a few years back
>> when I did this process
>> Forte paper and Ilford Warmtone produced the most
>> amazing terra cottas.
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>> Funny, for as unexotic as Ilford paper is, it does
>> the best mordancages,
>> too...
>> Chris
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>> From: "Andy Duncan" <duncanad45@gmail.com>
>>> I am almost done with creating a web gallery of all
>> my lumen prints that I
>>> have made (and feel are web site worthy). I hope
>> to have it completed this
>>> weekend, which I will post when I do get it
>> completed, but until then,
>>> there
>>> are some examples I have posted on my blog, found
>> at
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> photographicdepartures.blogspot.com<http://
> photographicdepartures.blogspot.com>
>>> Andy Duncan
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Received on Fri Sep 23 17:04:32 2005