Re: How old are we? ***VERY*** OLD !!

So Camden, aren't ya glad ya posted your opinion? hehehehehehe

Enjoying the papyrus adventures.

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In a message dated 7/28/06 4:45:58 PM, jseigel@panix.com writes:

>
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Katharine Thayer wrote:
>
> > The last time Judy told us about how good it is for the list for people
> (her
> > side, not the other side) to just indulge themselves in telling everyone
> what
> > they think (about U.S. politics it was, that time)  and how much better it
> > makes "everyone" feel to do that, we lost at least two good people. We
> lost
>
> This is as bad a distortion as I've seen on the list, a parody of what I
> may have said... in fact a classic example of twist and smear.
>
> > Dave Rose because he just utterly, totally, lost it and had to be removed
> > from the list.   I wish he had been able to keep his cool; I miss him.  
> And
> > I'm afraid we also lost someone else.  I've been listening and listening
> for
>
> Dave Rose consistently replied to general, casual, "by the way" impersonal
> comments with vile furious, rabid, personal attacks, and much as I doubt
> stating the reality will reach you, I state that for the record. If he had
> only done that once, I think it would have been overlooked -- by everyone,
> but it was a pattern.
>
> I don't know what his personal demons were... but they were longstanding.
> And the last one, which didn't just slam Judy but OTHERS, too, put him
> over the top.
>
> I note here, for instance, that when I wrote, in passing, in my "View from
> 1.7 miles," report made 1.7 miles from ground zero when I regained
> connectivity and got back on the list after 9/11, something about our gas
> guzzlers having financed Al Queda, which surely everyone understands by
> now, even maybe the honorable Veep, Dave hit the fan, with personal
> accusations of lack of patriotism, and a lecture to me (from Wyoming) on
> bing a "good" american.
>
> Nor did I mean or even say the other twittishness attributed to me.
>
> Having put these basics on record (again), I will not revisit this issue.
>
> J.
>
>
>
> > his voice, and I don't think I've heard it since then.  He spoke up and
> said
> > that the political comments were making him feel unwelcome here, as
> someone
> > who, like Dave, has a different political view than those who were
> indulging
> > themselves by expressing their political opinions. He was shouted down,
> very
> > rudely as I recall.  He was a longtime member of the list, and a valuable
> > one.  No, I'm sorry, I just can't agree with this idea that the list heals
> > itself by the exertion of "social pressure;"  or by any airing of personal
> > pique and self-indulgence. That's certainly never been my experience, in
> fact
> > quite the opposite.  My 2cents,
> > Katharine.
>
>
Received on 07/28/06-04:41:45 PM Z