RE: I'm back! Hi to all + Silane?
Katharine, Bill Winkler is correct, thanks for remembering his name. I did meet Bill at APIS in '03. Don Bryant -----Original Message----- From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:48 AM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: I'm back! Hi to all + Silane? I'm thinking William Winkler, but that could be wrong. On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Katharine Thayer wrote: > Umm, it wasn't my list correspondence with Martin Mueller that I > was talking about. Martin's name I would remember, at any rate > Martin has never printed gum on glass as far as I know, and the guy > I'm talking about, I corresponded with privately, not on this > list. I don't remember his ever posting on this list; I found him > on the Bostick and Sullivan list, and the main part of our > correspondence occurred not on that list but privately. He sent > me (and would probably send you) the specific instructions that > work for him for gum, and I tried it and achieved partial > success, but I was already late getting the work done for that > particular show that I had wanted to print on glass, and didn't > have any more time to experiment, so I abandoned the glass printing > project for then and did that series a different way. But he's > the one to talk to about this. As I said, the guys at Bostick and > Sullivan would know who he is and how to get in touch with him. > > If I was talking about something that could be found in the list > archives, I would have said so. > kt > > > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:37 AM, Loris Medici wrote: > > >> Hi Katharine, >> >> I found your correspondence with Martin Mueller here: >> http://www.usask.ca/lists/alt-photo-process/2005/mar05/0088.htm >> >> I will do few things different: >> First, the sources I could find about glass silanization (mostly >> medical, >> about preparing glass or mica dishes for culture growing ect., >> looking for >> better adhesion of organic molecules onto the glass) say one should >> *rinse* the glass after a *timed* dip into the solution. Second, I >> will >> put a hardened gelatin *subbing* layer between cyanotype/gum layer >> and >> silanized glass. I saw no evidence that you did these in your >> description >> (probably because Martin hadn't mentioned). >> >> I feel more positive about cyanotype, I have doubts about gum >> (since even >> silanized and primed with gelatin, the glass will have very little >> tooth - >> it any - for gum). We'll see if I ever manage to try this in a >> couple of >> weeks. >> >> Regards, >> Loris. >> >> 15 Haziran 2008, Pazar, 11:49 pm tarihinde, Katharine Thayer >> yazmış: >> >> >>> Hi Loris, >>> Welcome back! >>> >>> I've tried silane and not had good luck with it, but there's a >>> guy.... unfortunately I can't remember his name. .... who has >>> perfected printing gum on glass using silane as a sub. He and I >>> corresponded for a while several years ago on the subject but I've >>> changed computers since then and don't have any of that >>> correspondence now. But I'm sure the people who frequent the >>> Bostick >>> and Sullivan forum, if it still exists, will know who I'm talking >>> about, and for all I know, he may well still post there himself, if >>> it does still exist. And maybe someone here knows who I'm talking >>> about. William something, I think... maybe. I'd recommend looking >>> him up, and to do that, I'd recommend starting with the Bostick and >>> Sullivan forum. Good luck. >>> Katharine >>> >>> >>> On Jun 15, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Loris Medici wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi to all, >>>> >>>> I'm (finally) back home after 6 months of military service. >>>> >>>> As you can easily understand, I'm craving for taking photographs >>>> and >>>> making alt prints. My current priority is working with glass; >>>> during >>>> summer, I want to make cyanotypes and gum prints on glass. >>>> >>>> Browsing the internet, I came across with compounds with the >>>> generic name >>>> "silane". What I understand is that silane compounds can be used as >>>> intermediate material, to help alt process emulsions (or gelatin >>>> primers) >>>> adhering to glass. >>>> >>>> Is there anyone using silane for such purposes? What is your >>>> procedure? >>>> >>>> (My plan is to silanize the glass - which is a self-assembly >>>> process as I >>>> understand it - then coat it with hardened gelatine and then put >>>> the alt >>>> process emulsion on top of this sandwitch...) >>>> >>>> What are your suggestions? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> Loris. >>>> >>>> P.S. I'm very happy for being around again! >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >
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