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RE: I'm back! Hi to all + Silane?



Katharine,

Bill Winkler is correct, thanks for remembering his name. I did meet Bill at
APIS in '03.

Don Bryant

-----Original Message-----
From: Katharine Thayer [mailto:kthayer@pacifier.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:48 AM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: I'm back! Hi to all + Silane?

I'm thinking William Winkler, but that could be wrong.


On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Katharine Thayer wrote:

> Umm,  it wasn't my list correspondence  with Martin Mueller that  I  
> was talking about.   Martin's name I would remember,  at any rate  
> Martin has never printed gum on glass as far as I know, and the guy  
> I'm talking about, I corresponded with privately,  not on this  
> list.  I don't remember his ever posting on this list; I found him  
> on the Bostick and Sullivan list, and the main part of our  
> correspondence occurred not on that list but privately.    He sent  
> me (and would probably send you)  the specific instructions that  
> work for him for gum,  and  I tried it and achieved partial  
> success, but  I was already late getting the work done for that  
> particular show that I had wanted to print on glass, and didn't  
> have any more time to experiment, so I abandoned the glass printing  
> project for then and did that series a different way.   But he's  
> the one to talk to about this. As I said, the guys at Bostick and  
> Sullivan would know who he is and how to get in touch with him.
>
> If I was talking about something that could be found in the list  
> archives, I would have said so.
> kt
>
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:37 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Katharine,
>>
>> I found your correspondence with Martin Mueller here:
>> http://www.usask.ca/lists/alt-photo-process/2005/mar05/0088.htm
>>
>> I will do few things different:
>> First, the sources I could find about glass silanization (mostly  
>> medical,
>> about preparing glass or mica dishes for culture growing ect.,  
>> looking for
>> better adhesion of organic molecules onto the glass) say one should
>> *rinse* the glass after a *timed* dip into the solution. Second, I  
>> will
>> put a hardened gelatin *subbing* layer between cyanotype/gum layer  
>> and
>> silanized glass. I saw no evidence that you did these in your  
>> description
>> (probably because Martin hadn't mentioned).
>>
>> I feel more positive about cyanotype, I have doubts about gum  
>> (since even
>> silanized and primed with gelatin, the glass will have very little  
>> tooth -
>> it any - for gum). We'll see if I ever manage to try this in a  
>> couple of
>> weeks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Loris.
>>
>> 15 Haziran 2008, Pazar, 11:49 pm tarihinde, Katharine Thayer  
>> yazmış:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Loris,
>>> Welcome back!
>>>
>>> I've tried silane and not had good luck with it, but there's a
>>> guy.... unfortunately I can't remember his name. .... who has
>>> perfected printing gum on glass using silane as a sub.  He and I
>>> corresponded for a while several years ago on the subject but I've
>>> changed computers since then and don't have any of that
>>> correspondence now.  But I'm sure the people who frequent the  
>>> Bostick
>>> and Sullivan forum, if it still exists, will know who I'm talking
>>> about, and for all I know, he may well still post there himself, if
>>> it does still exist.  And maybe someone here knows who I'm talking
>>> about.  William something, I think... maybe.   I'd recommend looking
>>> him up, and to do that, I'd recommend starting with the Bostick and
>>> Sullivan forum.    Good luck.
>>> Katharine
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi to all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm (finally) back home after 6 months of military service.
>>>>
>>>> As you can easily understand, I'm craving for taking photographs  
>>>> and
>>>> making alt prints. My current priority is working with glass;  
>>>> during
>>>> summer, I want to make cyanotypes and gum prints on glass.
>>>>
>>>> Browsing the internet, I came across with compounds with the
>>>> generic name
>>>> "silane". What I understand is that silane compounds can be used as
>>>> intermediate material, to help alt process emulsions (or gelatin
>>>> primers)
>>>> adhering to glass.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyone using silane for such purposes? What is your
>>>> procedure?
>>>>
>>>> (My plan is to silanize the glass - which is a self-assembly
>>>> process as I
>>>> understand it - then coat it with hardened gelatine and then put
>>>> the alt
>>>> process emulsion on top of this sandwitch...)
>>>>
>>>> What are your suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Loris.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I'm very happy for being around again!
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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