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Re: First print on gesso

that is really good looking
nice job
----- Original Message ----- From: "Loris Medici" <mail@loris.medici.name>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:50 PM
Subject: First print on gesso/Al (Was: Re: OT: Photoshop CS4 upgrade overpriced)

Hi Keith,

Oops, sorry, since the reproduction was a little pale in my screen I
thought it was not finished. Not knowing the source file also could have
confused me.

BTW, I finished my first print on aluminum w/ adulterated acrylic gesso:

The reproduction is slightly more contrasty and slightly darker than the
actual print.

Surface texture is slightly exaggerated due to oblique non-diffuse light
source. But yes, there's pretty much texture caused by applying the ground
in four thick layers with a foam roller. Will sand following panels.

The surface and image are both pretty strong, but this media doesn't like
more than 4 layers (in my practice, that is), especially when you want to
work quick and force dry using hot air from a hairdryer. Hardened gum
starts to crack... Also after 4 layers, application of coating becomes
harder, forming halos around dark edges (= emulsion sliding due high
relief). I got small ground flaking here and there too (retouched with
permanent CD marker in the reproduction). Will try to let the print dry in
peace next time, in order to see if indeed it's force drying that causes
the problem.

Eventually the negative was a little bit on the strong side (= poor
highlight detail, original image has good highlight detail), will try to
reduce the negative's density range for subsequent prints.


19 Mart 2009, Perşembe, 5:14 pm tarihinde, Keith Gerling yazmış:
oops, sorry, I should have been more clear:

1) this IS the finished picture. 6 layers with 6 negatives

2) this picture is NOT sanded! When I said "I've started to sand", I
have said that "after THIS picture, I've started to sand!)

I don't intend to do many of these, either. These negs are 16x24 and they
do consume quite a bit of ink, especially the new orange and green masks
which are almost all black.

2009/3/19 Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name>

Wow, can't wait to see the finished print. On the other hand, I
won't be in 6 colors separation thing. 6 negatives per print is way more
than I would like to afford even with paper negatives; ink is not free.
Also, I would like to have the possibility of finishing the print in
than 6 layers. (Or, am I dreaming?)

Keith, I understand that was shot under oblique light - exaggerating the
texture - but IMHO there are still too much brush strokes for a "sanded"
surface. If that's sanded then my imagination is not enough to visualize
the raw board ;)

Thanks for sharing,

19 Mart 2009, Perşembe, 4:18 pm tarihinde, Keith Gerling yazmış:
> Don,
> It is available on the extended version.   Try Edit/Convert to
> Here is (what may be) the first gumprint made from PS4-rendered
> made from CMYKOG  (CMYK + orange + green) separations.
> http://www.gumprint.com/leaves.jpg
> This is on a 16x24" wood panel photographed with oblique light so that
> can see the detail.  I've started to sand down the surface to reduce
> brushstrokes and pimples.  Looking closely one can see areas where the
> orange and green layers are distinct.
> Keith
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Don Bryant <dsbryant@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>>  Keith,
>> As far as I can tell the Standard edition doesn&#65533;t but it could
>> available
>> in the Extended version but that&#65533;s only a guess.
>> Don Bryant
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Keith Gerling [mailto:keith.gerling@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:07 PM
>> *To:* alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>> *Subject:* Re: OT: Photoshop CS4 upgrade overpriced
>> I seem to recall reading that CS4 was going to incorporate some kind
>> hextone separation tool, similar to CMYK but with added channels.
>> Looking
>> for this now, I can't find any mention of it.  Does any CS4 user know
>> anything about this?
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Charles Ryberg <cryberg@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> I was wrong in my previous post--You can upgrade Photoshop only from
>> version of CS for US $199.  Check out Adobe's webpage.    Charles
>> Portland
>> OR