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Re: another 3 layer gum attempt

Christina and all...
 
As I adjust one variable at a time and ponder the results, I feel I'm honing in on a stable workflow. The considerable advice and help from many including yourself, Keith, Marek, Jim, Loris and Katharine has been absolutely invaluable.
 
I'm able to do some work today and tomorrow, so I'll see what I can get happening.
 
Paul
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: another 3 layer gum attempt

Sounds like you got it all under control, then, Paul, except for the one ingredient, then, of practice practice practice....
But as we learn so often on this list, what may work for Keith with his particular negatives doesn't always directly translate. I'm not sure what negatives Keith uses--he used to use imagesetter.
I think all the advice Marek gave is great advice so I won't repeat....
Chris
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Christina Z. Anderson
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Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: another 3 layer gum attempt

Christina...
 
My exposures are approx 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 minutes in the sun (unwavering bright, cloudless So California sun, mid-day).
 
It takes about 10-15 to see pigment in the water.
 
Negs are made with an Epson 3800 and its Ultrachrome 3 ink set (standard) and using QTR as the RIP.
 
I should mention that I found out how to reduce density with QTR last night, and will be trying that in the next few days.
 
I use WN Cadmium Yellow Pale, Sennelier Bright Red, WN Pthalo Ble GS pigments on Fabriano EW 140 lb.
 
Gum mixture is: .6g pigment / 9ml gum   to   12ml pot dich (13%)
 
I also should mention that my intention is to get a full rendition 3 layer print, a la Keith Taylor (those are his ratios above). I've read his Ag article (available on Lulu for a pittance) and also there is now a great feature in the May/June View Camera.
 
Thanks!
 
Paul
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: another 3 layer gum attempt

How long is your exposure, Paul, and when you put it in the developing water, does it "stream off" the image area immediately or gradually?
 
How do you make your negs?  What printer, ink, etc.?
Chris
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Christina Z. Anderson
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: another 3 layer gum attempt

Hello everyone...hope you had a nice weekend.
 
I tried another 3 layer gum print (same image as before) and althought the colors are better than the last time I did 3 layers only, I'm not getting enough color down to give my print a nice strong density. I'm getting good strong color in the clear borders...
 
 
I'm getting good clearing in approx 20-40 minutes...
 
My guess is I should be using a less dense negative. Do you all concur?
 
Thanks to everyone for your help...
 
Paul