From: Joe Rollins (jrollins@starband.net)
Date: 12/04/02-09:04:01 AM Z
I am new to this list, and may be out of line. I apologize if I am, but
could we move the computer crash discussion to another forum? Joe Rollins
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillip Murphy" <pmurf@bellsouth.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: crashes (off topic)
>
> Hi Judy,
>
> I know how frustrating computer gremlins can be when they're dancing on
your
> motherboard.
> My suggestion, if you haven't already gone this route, is to lug that box
down
> to the Apple Store
> at Prince and Greene St.'s and have their "genius" look at it. I've found
> them most helpful at our local
> store when things are amiss. Just a thought.
>
> all the best,
>
> Phillip
>
>
> Judy Seigel wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Eric Nelson wrote:
> >
> > > If my g4 or g3 crashed that much i'd have a serious
> > > session w/techtools and the extensions manager, figure
> > > out what appz/extensions, etc. cause this, and toss
> > > 'em.
> > > netscape 7 might be evil as i installed 7 yesterday
> > > for s&g's and my boot drive became unreadable,
> > > (dreaded flashing file icon at start up). system
> > > folder had become unblessed somehow...hmmm. all is
> > > well now.
> > > if netscape causes you that much trouble, toss it. i
> > > sling gigs of files around on my g4 doing video all
> > > the time and very few probs. running 9.2.2
> > > eric
> >
> > Eric, if I knew to do all that, would I be sitting here tearing my hair
> > out and beating my head against the wall? Except i think that there's a
> > curse on this G4 that makes everybody in the line drop 50 points of IQ,
> > and all connections turn to stone...and it's not just Netscape... Yes,
> > I'm running 9.2.2, or put an "i" in that, and make it ruining, or vice
> > versa.
> >
> > For one example, I spent 3 hours on tech support with Adaptec today,
doing
> > everything their "expert" could think of to get Netscape, Explorer,
> > whatever, whoever, to download the upgrade of their SCSI card, well it
was
> > a tense session (starting with the fact that they INSISTED I get the
> > serial number off the scsi card INSIDE the computer, but all those green
> > cards looked alike to me except some were big & some were tiny and NONE
of
> > them had legible serial numbers, or names, or personalities, or mothers
> > and fathers or the milk, even the skim milk, of human kindness), so
> > finally they "made an exception" and gave me an incident number, but to
> > make a 3 hour saga short (I never did make it to the gym, which didn't
> > break my heart as it was 27 degrees F out & I decided I could forgo the
> > mile walk), finally on 5th try the thing downloaded, got into my system
> > file, etc., and test showed it worked, that is, it would go on sleep &
> > wake up without crashing... Trouble is that was only a SHORT sleep.
After
> > an hour sleep I got a CRASH message, though no real crash (yes, they do
> > tease), BUT, something about it destroyed the autosleep -- The phone
rang
> > & I couldn't get off for an hour, the thing stayed on.
> >
> > Nearly every day since June has had similar episode. I've spent a great
> > deal of time & truly excellent amounts of money on experts, hauled
> > the thing to Tekserv (using a lifetime of marital brownie points for the
> > several trips by car), of course ripping out the connections for all
> > peripherals to get there, and spent 3 days sitting on the bench with
their
> > bakery take-a-number -- that solved one little problem tho not the one i
> > went up there for, which was an error of Apple Tech support which--
FLASH!
> > Stop the Press!! -- has got its head up its ass. Hope you will excuse
the
> > vulgarity, it's been a hard day, month, trimester.
> >
> > I do not mention the sessions with Adobe about the disappearing
Pagemaker
> > program, another saga entirely... That was indeed finally diagnosed by
a
> > local expert, and in case you're wondering, ADOBE DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE, I
> > mean not even a shred... I should demand my $25 back but lack the
> > strength. Pagemaker still crashes at about 10 minute intervals, but no
> > longer disappears. Don't tell me to get Indesign, it causes brain damage
> > with red boxes, & my brain is damaged enough.
> >
> > Maybe the expert at Adaptec picked the wrong driver -- the one Tekserv
> > installed was fine (lost in a clean install that didn't solve a
different
> > problem) -- if I could get through to Tekserv on the phone I'd ask them,
> > but 6 hours on hold is my limit... So happy days, I get to speak to my
> > friend Carl at Adaptec again tomorrow... He deserves it.
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > >
> > > > My G4 crashes AT LEAST 10 times a day. However, I
> > > > believe that's system
> > > > 9, and I believe it's deliberate. I think the
> > > > friendly folks at Apple
> > > > have deliberately left 9 in lethal state to convince
> > > > the miserable and
> > > > afflicted that if they throw out all their software
> > > > and hardware which
> > > > won't work on 10 and get new and take 10, they'll be
> > > > fine. (I haven't
> > > > heard of anyone with only 10 getting crashes, it's
> > > > the two together or 9
> > > > alone, IME.)
> > > >
> > > > I'll add that my late lamented 8.6 only crashed
> > > > twice in three years, and
> > > > both times it was the Evil Netscape.
> > >
> > >
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