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Re: What is in Dick Arentz' #7 Mixture



Eric,

Clearly I made some bad assumptions about the universality of Pt/Pd 
terminology.  My assumption was based on the incorrect reasoning that 
all experienced Pt/Pd printers talk the same language, as would be 
true for carbon printing for example.

Congratulations on your book. How are you selling it? No sin in 
self-publishing. My carbon manual is self-published and I really like 
it that way because it allows me to constantly improve and refine the 
text, a really important consideration for me since little in what we 
do is set in stone.

(But BTW, why would anyone write a manual on Pt/Pd printing. The 
process is so incredibly simple that one would not be surprised to 
find that even perfect idiots could get good results from it with a 
minimum of training!!.)

Best,

Sandy K.



>Sandy,
>
>Dick may have a book out there published by a reputable publisher ( I have a
>prerelease copy of it dating back to 2000), but that does not mean that I
>have an intimate knowledge of his nomenclature off the top of my head. I had
>been printing for nearly 20 years when I saw this version and didn't inspect
>every page.  I would think that over  time, we all develop our own notation
>for our printing systems.  Don't be alarmed that Jeffrey or I question it.
>
>Dick's book is piled high with traditional information and done well.  I
>believe he covers the AFO methods of Ware/Malde and the Zia system in one or
>perhaps two paragraphs.  So to assume or assert that it should cover it all
>, well...  it does not.  Also that we , the greater platinum printers of the
>world would have it close at hand is a stretch.
>
>respectfully
>EJ Neilsen
>
>PS I too have a book on platinum / palladium printing available.  Self
>published however.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sandy King" <sanking@clemson.edu>
>To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:48 PM
>Subject: Re: What is in Dick Arentz' #7 Mixture
>
>
>>
>>  Jeffrey Mathias wrote:
>>
>>  >Sandy King wrote:
>>  >>  It was Dick's #7 mixture which is a combination of platinum and
>>  >>  palladium. The specific mixture is given in his book but I don't have
>>  >>  it on hand at the moment.
>>  >>  I will try to find the book and post that information to the list.
>>  >
>>  >As a general comment:
>>  >This is why (for the purposes of this list  anyway) that discussions of
>>  >process and chemistry should be explicit in describing what is done.
>>  >
>>
>>  As I stated in a previous message I assumed that many Pt/Pd workers
>>  would be familiar with Arentz' #7 mixture since he is one of the
>>  premier platinum printers in the world and his book where this
>>  mixture is described is probably the best and most widely available
>>  work on the subject. If the information provided was not sufficiently
>>  explicit then I take full responsibility for all damages and
>>  liability that may result from the lack of full disclosure.
>>
>>  Sandy King
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>


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