From: Sandy King (sanking@CLEMSON.EDU)
Date: 04/22/03-02:20:26 PM Z
A few questions about the Satista process.
1. In what way is the final print like or unlike a kallitype print
that has either been toned in pt/pd, or to which pt/pd has been added
to the sensitizing solution. By this question I mean to ask if there
is a different, unique look that is rendered?
2. Is there some archival advantage to the process over regular
kallitype, or is Satista just another variation of making a
silver/iron print based on ferric oxalate?
Sandy King
>Amy,
>Sorry for the delay. I did not pay any attention to e-mails during Easter
>weekend. Hereis my recipe:
>Satista prints:
>Papers that wok for me: Arches platine, Bergger COT320 (from Bostick and
>Sullivan)
>Sensitizer: Ferric ammonium oxalate, 40% solution, standard platinum
>solution used in platinum or platinum – palladium printing (20% K2PtCl4),
>A standard sensitizer formula for an 8x10 print is as follows: 1 drop of
>Pt solution, 25 to 30 drops of FAO solution. I coat with a push rod.. You
>can use more platinum, for example 4 drops, I have also used as little as
>1 drop of 5% platinum solution (talking about economy now!). More platinum
>will give blacker print, less platinum tends to give browner prints. Dry
>very well. For best results there should be no moisture left in the paper.
>Develop in 4% silver nitrate solution. Silver nitrate will store
>indefinitely if made with distilled water and stored in the dark. Remember
>silver nitrate will stain everyting that comes in contact with. Printing
>is very fast. I have a bank of 6 20W lights and a typical time might be 2
>minutes. There is no visible image after exposure so test strips are
>necessary.
>My development method is the same as coating method. With a plastic eye
>dropper pour about 4 cc of silver nitrate solution on top of the print and
>using the push rod spread it evenly over the entire print in one single
>pass. Remember there should be excess developer or else uneven development
>will take place. On some papers you can move the developer a few times,
>but some papers do not take it well. This is fairly simple once you
>practiced it. Let it sit for a minute or two and wash the pint with water
>until the milkiness is gone, say 5 minutes. Clear the print in Na4EDTA
>solution or Kodak clearing bath, wash some more. At this point you could
>do gold or palladium toning. Residual silver is removed in 10% sodium
>thiosulfate bath. Images do not bleach, but there is no reason to soak
>them very long. This step might not even be necessary, but I have not
>tested.
>Marek
>
>
>> I can't believe I would've missed that on the B&S webpage. Luckily I'm
>> moving to Santa Fe in a few months so they'll literally be right around
>> the corner from me. Hopefully that'll keep me a bit more up to date with
>> them. A less expensive way to do platinum prints!!! Wonderful news to
>> this photo-students ears! Thank you to both of you for the wonderful
>> info. Marek please post details as I'm sure I would like to hear the
>> details along with the rest of the list (we're all, after all, photo
>> nerds at heart)! Many thanks, Amy Cutting
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pay" <payral@club-internet.fr>
>> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: Link to my Alt-Photos
>>
>>
>> Nice pictures. I will be interested to receive more informations about
>> your way on Satista prints.
>>
>> mmatusz@pdq.net a *crit :
>>>
>>> I cam up with a slightly different process that uses platinum
>>> sensitizer and silver solution for development (no glycerine). The
>>> amount of platinum varies from 1/4 to 1/16 of what you would use for
>>> platinum print. There are two examples of prints on my alt web site
>>> http://www.alternativephotography.com/marek_matusz.html
>>> The description of prints on the site are reversed. The gold toned
>>> print is pure black black. I am adding a few more prints, so you might
>>> chek in a few days.
>>> I would be happy to send details if anybody is interested.
> >> Marek Matusz
>>>
>>> > This process was created by Willis when the platinum price was
>>> getting high. It's an economic way to produce images in between
>>> silver and platinum. Chemicals are the same as in pd/pt printing but
>>> developer will be glycerin and silver nitrate. You will get much
>>> more informations (technical & how to) from B & S website.
>>> > I hope it will help
>>> > --
>>> > Ayral Philippe
>>> >
>>> > Tél/Fax: +33 (0)450 39 79 81
>>> > http://perso.club-internet.fr/payral
>>> > http://www.focale.ch
>>> >
>>> > Amy Cutting a *crit :
>>> >>
>>> >> Philippe,
>>> >> I'm sorry, I haven't heard of satista prints before. Could you give
>>> me a bit of an overview of the process?
>>> >> Many thanks, Amy Cutting
>>
>> --
>> Philippe Ayral
>> 52, rue de Vallard
>> 74240 Gaillard
>> France
>> Tél/Fax: +33 (0)450 39 79 81
>> http://perso.club-internet.fr/payral
>> http://www.focale.ch
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