RE: Sodium chloropalladite and Ziatype

While I have seen and made some very nice prints with the Ziatype printing
method, the best prints overall that I have seen are those made using
standard traditional chemistry.

Eric Neilsen Photography
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony McLean [mailto:tony.mclean@spamcop.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> Subject: Re: Sodium chloropalladite and Ziatype
>
> Darryl
>
> What I suspect you purchased from B&S is sodium tetrachloropalladadite
> which is the double salt of palladium formed by the addition of common
> salt (sodium chloride) to palladium chloride.
>
> Adding additional lithium chloride to this double salt will not make
> the lithium salt of palladium and will be a total waste of time (and
> good palladium)
>
> My recommendation is to try the print-out technique using your existing
> sodium tetrachloropalladite and ferric ammonium oxalate. I suspect
> that you will achieve a result of sorts but not exactly the same as
> using the lithium salt. If you are unhappy with the result then either
> purchase some more palladium chloride and add the lithium chloride to
> it or forget the whole thing and use the traditional recipe for
> platinum palladium printing. I find it far superior and much more
> consistent and I suspect that most other Pt/Pd printers would agree?
>
> Cheers ... Tony McLean
>
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tony.mclean
> On 16 Jan 2004, at 15:46, mmatusz@pdq.net wrote:
>
> > Darryl,
> > I have done Ziatypes with Na2PdCl4 solution (that is the only palladiun
> > salt I am using) with the addition of LiCl. I have a bottle of 50%
> > lithium
> > chloride. One to two drops of this solution for a 4x5 prints should
> > do. My
> > ziatypes typically contain some gold to get the beautiful cool blacks.
> > THe
> > key in Ziatype is high humidity, It would be perfect for a day like
> > today
> > in Houston, 75% humidity. I have to confess that I never moved beyond
> > 4x5
> > with Ziatypes, My successs ration was not that good. I have some great
> > prints and lot and lots of bad prints. I am printing palladium with gum
> > over to change the tone of the print.
> > YOU can see some of my Ziatypes here
> > http://www.alternativephotography.com/marek_matusz.html
> > Good luck and let us know.
> > Marek
> >
> >> I need some guidance/advise.
> >>
> >> I purchased a time ago a 100ml of sodium chloropalladite, Solution #3
> >> for traditional palladium printing. I'd rather make ziatypes of
> >> possible, but doubt that I can use this due to the sodium component in
> >> this mixture. Is it possible to add lithium chloride at this point or
> >> do I need to punt and take the loss? Any reasonable suggestions
> >> appreciated. By reasonable I mean nothing worse than selling this
> >> solution and buying the Lithium/Palladium mix from B&S. I already kow
> >> I could do this.
> >>
> >> As an alternative, could I use this solution for any type of toning?
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> Darryl Baird
> >>
> >
Received on Sat Jan 17 10:47:41 2004