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Re: Mac OS X Leopard (Re: new problem)

Hi Again Diana,

If I'm reading your description correctly, there might be a few easy remedies.

Rather than setting your image size in the print dialog box, why haven't you already specified your image size in Photoshop? After all, you should be sharpening at your final image (negative?) size in PS anyway, right? And many think it's good policy to set your page setup (size of paper or transparency film) before printing (File>Page Setup).

If certain media choices are grayed out, you have probably specified an "improper" Paper Feed in the Page Setup dialog box. For instance, you won't get your Velvet Fine Art option unless you have chosen "Manual Rear" as the paper feed option for a given paper size (there are FIVE feed choices for Letter Size alone). You can see this dizzying array of Feed Choices (thanks to Epson, not Apple) at the following:

You are correct in feeling that this is way too complex but as long as Epson designs so many darn ways for us to stick a piece of paper into their printers, we'll have to jump through their hoops. But on the other side of the coin, had someone told us 10 years ago that we'd be getting this quality on our desktops, we'd have thought them crazy. ;^)

The Center Image option (in the Print Dialog Box) should work if you've done your image size and page setup preparation properly.

Hope this helps ease some of your hassles.


On Feb 6, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:


Thanks.  I'll have to go through the printing stage process, and write each problem down, and get back to you.  It prints, but it's at the Preview stage (just before printing) where there are multiples problem I have to negotiate-- the main one being that the printer doesn't seem to pick up on the image size I type in; it also doesn't center on the transparency or paper anymore- only printing at the very upper edge and towards one corner.  So I figured out how to cheat it by creating a border around the image, so basically lie about the size of the image-- anyway, sort of complicated-- but if I go through these contortions, I can get it working.  It was so easy before, though.  Also, I've lost a number of choices of what kind of paper and what kind of finish I'm using as well. They just come up grayed-out.

So, I would need to go through it step by step, and write it down, so this all makes sense to you, but I'll do that, and report back.

Thanks again.


On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:30 PM, Dan Burkholder wrote:

Hi Diana,

I probably missed it in your posts but what specific problems are you having with Leopard and your 3800? I'm printing in that environment with both the Epson driver and ImagePrint and having no problems. If you outline the things that aren't working, maybe one of us can cobble a workaround. And to gently put this into the real of alt-photo discussion, I was using the 3800 just yesterday (via Leopard and CS3) to make negs for pt/pd printing.

As a sidebar to Apple warranty issues. Two weeks ago my 2.5 year-old iMac started misbehaving (felt like a logic board problem) and Apple's response was, "we're sending you a brand new Intel iMac to replace that G5." Now that's nice customer service. They even covered shipping in both directions.

About backup. Time Machine is great for "normal" users but for photographers creating large image files, Time Machine's archiving feature leads to unreasonable disk space requirements. A better software choice (as recommended by Jeremy) is SuperDuper (http://www.shirt-pocket.com) which does "smart" incremental backups (only copying new or modified files) and, best of all, it creates bootable drives so you can get your computer back to exactly the way it was (even icons on the desktop) easily. Time Machine does not do this.

About Leopard. Yes, this is a major upgrade of OSX so there will be some glitches. On the other hand, you can't help but love things like "Quickview" that lets you see the contents of any file (.doc, .psd, .jpg, .pdf, etc.) by simply selecting the file and hitting the spacebar. No software to launch and fast results that make computing easier. You can even expand Quickview (Google Apple Quickview plugins) to instantly show the contents of zip files without expanding them. I use this frequently as I find zips that I've created for someone and want to examine the contents without expanding the zip. A real time saver

Hope this helps.


On Feb 6, 2008, at 8:26 AM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:

Thanks, Judy.

As to your question,  "why do we keep falling for bigger and more complicated items" --  isn't it almost impossible to avoid?  None of us is forced to wire our homes and purchase all this equipment-- that's certainly true--  but once we decide to take that route, we're quickly propelled, it seems to me, along a path that moves in only one direction.

I do have a few friends who have steadfastly refused to go over to the dark side; at least two don't even own telephone answering machines.  Truth be told, their lives might be happier and simpler.  Of course, I wouldn't know--  I can't seem to get in touch with them.  ;)

Seriously, though, I've had to work with a couple of those folks on photography events, and though I like these individuals very much and appreciate the work they do-- dealing with them was a royal pain in the, uh, neck.  I'd never do it again if I could help it-- unless they got themselves firmly situated somewhere in the 21st C.  I guess that's another topic altogether, though.

Anyway-- thanks again, Judy-- and to everyone else-- for listening and for your replies.  When Leopard and my Epson 3800 are fully functional/compatible, I'll let you know-- and let you know if it was worth all this grief.  :)


On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:12 AM, Judy Seigel wrote:

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Diana Bloomfield wrote:

Anyway, I feel so bad this has gone so far off-topic for alt processes (well, not that bad), but at this point, I think we've all become dependent on computers and printers in one form or another for our work (even if it's simply having a website)-- that I sometimes really do long for the pre- household computer days.  I felt my life was much simpler then.

Strictly speaking it's probably off topic, but in fact, since we depend on our computers one way or another and use them probably in similar ways (especially now for digital negs), it doesn't make sense to go to yet another "list" where they're using computers for *different* things (like playing chess or forecasting the weather) & you probably can't hash out the issues of, say, "Time Machine," at your average cocktail party.

There's also the fact that (intentionally or not !) Diana has "educated" some 500 people through her hassles.  Our problems won't be exactly the same maybe, but still excellent background for us "civilians." And clearly Apple has one helluva nerve, making you pay to send back a defective part. (I also read that Apple's fancy new store in the NYC meatmarket district has no restroom, ie., toilet, for customers.... so unheard of & obnoxious, it got at least two mentions in city press -- or two that I saw, possibly more.)

As for "life was simpler," true probably, so why do we keep falling for bigger and more complicated (toothier) items ?