Re: I'm back! Hi to all + Silane?
Oh, OK. Thanks Katharine. I would be very interested in the instructions... I like the hardness but fragility of glass and have very nice projects (installations) on mind. Regards, Loris. 16 Haziran 2008, Pazartesi, 5:48 pm tarihinde, Katharine Thayer yazmış: > I'm thinking William Winkler, but that could be wrong. > > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Katharine Thayer wrote: > >> Umm, it wasn't my list correspondence with Martin Mueller that I >> was talking about. Martin's name I would remember, at any rate >> Martin has never printed gum on glass as far as I know, and the guy >> I'm talking about, I corresponded with privately, not on this >> list. I don't remember his ever posting on this list; I found him >> on the Bostick and Sullivan list, and the main part of our >> correspondence occurred not on that list but privately. He sent >> me (and would probably send you) the specific instructions that >> work for him for gum, and I tried it and achieved partial >> success, but I was already late getting the work done for that >> particular show that I had wanted to print on glass, and didn't >> have any more time to experiment, so I abandoned the glass printing >> project for then and did that series a different way. But he's >> the one to talk to about this. As I said, the guys at Bostick and >> Sullivan would know who he is and how to get in touch with him. >> >> If I was talking about something that could be found in the list >> archives, I would have said so. >> kt >> >> >> >> On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:37 AM, Loris Medici wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Katharine, >>> >>> I found your correspondence with Martin Mueller here: >>> http://www.usask.ca/lists/alt-photo-process/2005/mar05/0088.htm >>> >>> I will do few things different: >>> First, the sources I could find about glass silanization (mostly >>> medical, >>> about preparing glass or mica dishes for culture growing ect., >>> looking for >>> better adhesion of organic molecules onto the glass) say one should >>> *rinse* the glass after a *timed* dip into the solution. Second, I >>> will >>> put a hardened gelatin *subbing* layer between cyanotype/gum layer >>> and >>> silanized glass. I saw no evidence that you did these in your >>> description >>> (probably because Martin hadn't mentioned). >>> >>> I feel more positive about cyanotype, I have doubts about gum >>> (since even >>> silanized and primed with gelatin, the glass will have very little >>> tooth - >>> it any - for gum). We'll see if I ever manage to try this in a >>> couple of >>> weeks. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Loris. >>> >>> 15 Haziran 2008, Pazar, 11:49 pm tarihinde, Katharine Thayer >>> yazmıÅ�: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Loris, >>>> Welcome back! >>>> >>>> I've tried silane and not had good luck with it, but there's a >>>> guy.... unfortunately I can't remember his name. .... who has >>>> perfected printing gum on glass using silane as a sub. He and I >>>> corresponded for a while several years ago on the subject but I've >>>> changed computers since then and don't have any of that >>>> correspondence now. But I'm sure the people who frequent the >>>> Bostick >>>> and Sullivan forum, if it still exists, will know who I'm talking >>>> about, and for all I know, he may well still post there himself, if >>>> it does still exist. And maybe someone here knows who I'm talking >>>> about. William something, I think... maybe. I'd recommend looking >>>> him up, and to do that, I'd recommend starting with the Bostick and >>>> Sullivan forum. Good luck. >>>> Katharine >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 15, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Loris Medici wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi to all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm (finally) back home after 6 months of military service. >>>>> >>>>> As you can easily understand, I'm craving for taking photographs >>>>> and >>>>> making alt prints. My current priority is working with glass; >>>>> during >>>>> summer, I want to make cyanotypes and gum prints on glass. >>>>> >>>>> Browsing the internet, I came across with compounds with the >>>>> generic name >>>>> "silane". What I understand is that silane compounds can be used as >>>>> intermediate material, to help alt process emulsions (or gelatin >>>>> primers) >>>>> adhering to glass. >>>>> >>>>> Is there anyone using silane for such purposes? What is your >>>>> procedure? >>>>> >>>>> (My plan is to silanize the glass - which is a self-assembly >>>>> process as I >>>>> understand it - then coat it with hardened gelatine and then put >>>>> the alt >>>>> process emulsion on top of this sandwitch...) >>>>> >>>>> What are your suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>> Loris. >>>>> >>>>> P.S. I'm very happy for being around again! >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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