Re: new subject line about ...... aaaggghhh!!!! ...."consensus'!
You are wrong to think you were wrong. From this group there is a lot to
learn about the craft of alt photography, and also plenty of new words.
But what you get in addition, the hidden bonus, is an insight into the
mystery (or more correctly mistery) - the customs and protocols, lore and
myths, and other unique manifestations of the culture of alt photography.
You can enjoy that bonus even as a lurker, but I think it is good form to
post something every now and then to let the main participants know you are
watching; otherwise you can sometimes experience something approaching
voyeuristic guilt, especially during their friskier exchanges.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bogdan Karasek" <email@example.com>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: new subject line about ...... aaaggghhh!!!! ...."consensus'!
> I joined this group because I thought that I could learn something
> about Alternative Photographic Processes and expand my creative
> photographic vocabulary. Guess I was wrong.
> Sandy King wrote:
> > Hi Judy,
> > No, the thrill is not that of an authoritative woman. The thrill is
> > seeing an otherwise logical and rational woman turn into Pavlov's dog
> > with the mention of the gum pigment test.
> > I won't suggest any potential reading for this condition because in
> > matters regarding the gum pigment test I think you are not a good
> > candidate for therapy, or for further personal growth. The only
> > possible cure that I see for you is a complete program of abstinence.
> > Sandy
> > At 6:35 PM -0400 5/8/08, Judy Seigel wrote:
> >> On Wed, 7 May 2008, Sandy King wrote:
> >>> But it sure turns me on when you talk that gum pigment test trash!
> >> It's difficult to tell in advance what's going to turn some men on...
> >> I mean (supposedly) GROWN MEN ! (If only Elliot Spitzer had been so
> >> easy to excite, we might have saved a governor !) In this case,
> >> apparently, the thrill is an authoritative woman! Professionals say
> >> this particular fetish stems from early childhood (tho I daresay most
> >> of them do) and follows some fairly predictable patterns, even
> >> stereotypes.
> >> Sorry, I don't have any handcuffs, trusses, whips, etc, on hand, tho
> >> I do have a variety of powerful test strips. More helpfully for your
> >> problem, however, permit me to suggest a few references. What
> >> immediately comes to mind of course is Havelock Ellis: "Psychopathia
> >> Sexualis." You may not have it on your shelf -- in which case, try
> >> Google. Plus of course other, more recent references, for
> >> instance..... Oh, check Charles Brenner, Socarides, Wilhelm Reich,
> >> Harry Stack Sullivan, Ernst Kris... etc. (Though consensus remains
> >> that the basic insights were Freud's, the name itself continues to
> >> terrify some psychopaths.)
> >> In any event, given some competent therapy and sincere effort on the
> >> part of the patient, chances are good for, not necessarily complete
> >> cure, but personal growth toward -- the technical term is "maturity."
> >> J.
> Bogdan Karasek
> Montréal, Québec bogdan(at)bogdanphoto.com
> Canada www.bogdanphoto.com
> "I bear witness"